bousfield19
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how is this offensive its ment as a joke as there wer no minis on the stand
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Post by bousfield19 on Jun 10, 2009 18:03:49 GMT
Recently there has been a lot of stuff happening within the club that i have noticed
i couldn’t help but notice the whole 18th birthday thread.
I thought that the way suzy spoke to a new member who was only asking a simple question(which had been asked more than once before with no reply) and giving some constructive criticism was totally out of order, especially on a public forum it should of been kept to personal messages or a phone call. Jack originally said that it was a bit late notice as in it was late notice from suzy/alex alerting the rest of the club that were willing and up for doing something to celebrate that it had been cancelled
You say its been advertised on the forum and at meetings but the first of me hearing of it was a few weeks back from a few members that mentioned it as they hadn’t heard any more about it and i have been to a fair few recent meetings but don’t get to go on here as much anymore. It was said that it was cancelled due to lack of interest but to be honest there were already 9 people that said they were up for it which is about average for any show of recent years
Another thing i have noticed was at the last meeting where net had organised a run out , I thought it was disgusting how you started shouting at andy and emma as soon as they turned up you could of taken them to one side and had a quiet word with them about the problem (which as far as I’m aware was a bit of harmless fun between members) I know i for one was embarrassed for the other members it doesn’t exactly give a good impression to members if the main person of the club is having a screaming fit at another member i felt sorry for alan as he really didn’t know what to do with himself I think you might need to listen to your own advice suzy and think before you go shouting your mouth off, it puts some folks off.
From what i gather a few of the more recent members are actually considering not coming back because of the last few things that have happened maybe its time to take a think about what’s more important to the club new members from America or the new and current local members ?
That’s all i have to say for now jamie
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Post by captainjack15 on Jun 10, 2009 19:10:53 GMT
Perfectly put Jamie....
Although maybe I shouldn't comment...... >_<
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Post by Alex on Jun 10, 2009 19:46:14 GMT
If those are actually Jamie's words then I am surprised - or has he lent his login to someone else ?
Two trouble-making people and an accomplice have had their logins suspended until certain offensive material is removed from the internet. If it were not for their persistant sniping and griping behind peoples backs there would be no need for this to have happened...
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Post by captainjack15 on Jun 10, 2009 19:50:33 GMT
What are you suggesting about Jamie?? Is that some sort of dig, or am I missing something!
Also it was light hearted fun and if you let something get to you that much, even if it is little then maybe you need to learn to let it go over your head??
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Post by Alex on Jun 10, 2009 19:56:02 GMT
Jack, don't take this the wrong way, but as a new member you have to appreciate that a lot of things have happened in the past that you either know nothing about, or have heard only one side of a partial story... Suffice it to say that there is more to this than meets the eye, and I am more than happy to take this off the public board to explain to you.
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bousfield19
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how is this offensive its ment as a joke as there wer no minis on the stand
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Post by bousfield19 on Jun 10, 2009 19:57:19 GMT
actually alex it was my own words i spent time making it read so i wouldnt offend anyone.
the material is hardly offensive is it? it was ment as a joke as the whole club had left before the show had began to slow down( from memory it was about 1pm you had left by)
how are andy emma and ben being trouble makers im sure if u ask any of the club members that have seen it they will agree it was harmless fun.
i personally think the problem here is the fact that suzy and alex cant take a joke or criticism
and i think it is stupid how u r saying this but not allowing emma or andy a chance to respond is very childish
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Post by captainjack15 on Jun 10, 2009 20:01:14 GMT
I've heard one side of most stories yes, a bit like this one, perhaps you should allow Emma and Andy there say?? As already said. Only fair. Also no offense taken.
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Post by Alex on Jun 10, 2009 20:05:55 GMT
No logins have been deleted, merely suspended. Those involved know exactly what is required to have them reinstated. For you to know who is involved means that you are not a totally innocent observer, hence the suggestion that you had perhaps had words put in your mouth.
Jokes are fine as long as the jokes are in good taste, and any CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is not a constant drip-drip-drip of misinformation and suggestion...
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Post by rabiedmushroom on Jun 10, 2009 20:20:11 GMT
Emma and I have already chatted. Like sensible ladies we can happily discuss issues in private and not plaster stuff over a public forum As for having a rant myself, well, I have personal matters that are currently very stressful, and yes sometimes I get upset and verbal becuase I'm only human. I'm not a doormat and I do have feelings. Its clear that only Jeanette and I seem to be organising stuff at the moment. Rather than griping why don't some other people come up with some ideas, stop bickering, and go and have FUN with the Minis. That's what its all about...
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Post by minimin on Jun 10, 2009 20:35:44 GMT
Here goes with my opinion for what its worth . . .
Well said Suzy . . it is right that you and Emma have discussed this in private, as a public slanging match will do the club no favours.
I (as you know) have not been to any meets or shows for a long time, so am no way involved in any club politics.
As a member, I do not recall MU stating anywhere a condition that I must not post certain material on the internet - especially on my own PERSONAL facebook page. I think you have completely stepped over the mark morally and legally, trying to dictate what people put on their own personal internet space.
I have seen the 'offending' photo, and to be honest cant see what the fuss is about. However, it has obviously offended you, but the correct way of dealing with this would have been as Suzy and Emma have done - in private.
A lot of members are seriously unhappy about the way this has been handled - I just hope it does not signal the end of MU after 18 years. It would be a shame for the club to end because of a male ego.
nb. This is my opinion only, it is written by me, and is not meant to offend anyone.
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Post by fishnet on Jun 10, 2009 21:02:18 GMT
ALEX, You are a very rude and insulting arrogant man with your self opinion and your narrow minded ways stuck right up your own arse.
I have personally taken rudeness from you, constantly regarding my weight and that i should put some meat on.
I have never insulted you or anyone else at the club, but you constantly do it whether its friend foe or in the public eye. A whole evening slagging the late Jade Goody in my eyes was in very bad taste!
I myself, the reason for my slim weight, is due to the fact that i have an illness, which up until now like to keep private. But i felt i needed to make this valid point that - its OK for you to take the piss and slag people off and hurt peoples feelings (including me) but a light hearted joke amongst friends and members you find offensive. Excuse Me!!!
You have had your issues in the past, with members, - move on! You have tonight insulted two of my very close friends with their intelligence, both of them are far more intelligent than you, with the biggest hearts I've met in a long time.
They are responding to these threads, because they care, something you don't !
I feel strongly you need to publicly apologize to everyone of them. Emma Andy Ben Jamie Jack
And learn to think before you speak, and maybe learn to keep your mouth shut!
Jeanette
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Post by Alex on Jun 10, 2009 21:11:56 GMT
Logins enabled. Do what you want, post what you want, because I'm not sure I'm allowed to care about the club I love any more...
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Post by captainjack15 on Jun 10, 2009 21:32:19 GMT
Why did you edit that post??
And I'm sure you do care really....
Net well said.
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bousfield19
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how is this offensive its ment as a joke as there wer no minis on the stand
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Post by bousfield19 on Jun 10, 2009 21:46:01 GMT
If those are actually Jamie's words then I am surprised - or has he lent his login to someone else ?.. what do you mean by this alex are you implying i dont have enough inteligence to write this post? i actually took a lot of time and effort thinking of a way to word it wuithout sounding offensive. you have offended me by implying that i am not capable of writing such a post
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Post by Ben on Jun 11, 2009 8:19:29 GMT
alex i dont really want to get involved with this argument because frankly its none of my business but i just wanted to say that i personally think that you and suzy do a great job of running the club and i really appreciate all the times you have helped me out with my many problems with advice and giving up your days off to work on my minis. just thought you would like to know that not everyone is against you. Dont let it get you down mate.
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mini cooper rules OK
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Post by timdodwell on Jun 11, 2009 14:42:40 GMT
Hey Guys calm down - you're all good folk, and have a great club. Not being involved in any way, I suspect that this has all blown up because poor Suzy has been very stressed out recently (for probably understandable reasons)- thus Alex would be affected too. As a result, reactions to things have been blown up out of all proportion. Hopefully, it will all be forgotten quickly.
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